should be much easier for straight allies to come up and say i'm against homophobia and to create an environment where a gay player feels safe about it. i think the great thing about "the necessary roughness" show is they show the need tore an actual ally. i think that if allies come out and say, you know what, i'm against homophobia, i welcome a gay teammate first, it will be easier for someone who is gay to come out. >> is race an indicator and a problem in the african-american community, in sports because, as we see, you know, none of that sweet stuff? we saw that from chris culliver. with the president coming out with marriage equality and churches coming out for marriage equality and backing it, do you think that will help infiltrate too where the president's viewpoints are framed from? >> i think it crosses all race lines, and i think homophobia does too. i don't think that there are certain races who may be more or less homophobic. i think that it's all about education and having these thoughtful conversations about what it means to be an lgbtq person. >> if you had to do it all over agai